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Fred Klein,
February 2005
Copyright 2001,2002,2003, except for quotes and photographs whose source books are noted
I have made a stab at compiling what I know or can easily find out about N scale passenger car prototypes. I have added many new discoveries and photographs during the last 2 years. I am grateful to several on-line modelers for car identifications and information, and I have quoted them where appropriate. I hope others will respond to me with corrections and additions to this information.
This is a list of prototype railroad car types corresponding to commercially available N-scale passenger cars. I try to match car types regardless of paint scheme. I basically compared photographs with the models for similar appearance and window arrangement, but I do not count rivets or corrugations. I have found prototypes for most models, but am still searching for all the roads that ran a particular type of car. I give complete references the photographs I have found that match the models, though the books must be consulted for the original photographers. The full names of the reference books are at the end of part 1 of the article.
A goal of most modelers is to model specific train prototypes from off-the-shelf cars, prototypical car sides or kits, and by kitbashing. The simpler problem I address here is the reverse (but is very useful to our goal): to take commercially available cars and search for their prototypes.
I will add to this list as new facts are uncovered and are reported to me. Information could include car types made for several different railroads, or cars later sold to other railroads. Of course, many of the models available may look close enough to the prototype cars to be individually suitable for inclusion in consists. N scalers do not have many finished model types to choose from and must either accept a model to “represent” a prototype, rely on custom painted kits, or bash cars together from parts. Even prototypically accurate cars are often inaccurate for a given road in some detail, such as length of letterboards or presence of skirts. Personally, I find that when I know how a car should look from photographs, the less I can tolerate the worst of the inaccurate models of it.
Unfortunately, manufacturers are reluctant to supply
specific roadnames of the prototypes for their cars because that might limit
sales of the non-prototypical roadnames.
At present, the prototype trains that can be most closely modeled with a
variety of stock passenger cars are the California Zephyr (Kato CZ complete
Budd train, Con-cor Budd), Burlington Zephyrs (Kato corrugated), Union Pacific
City and Overland trains (Kato smoothside), Great Northern’s Empire Builder
(Con-cor smoothside), some Pennsy cars (Rivarossi smoothside), Amtrak
superliners (Con-cor and Kato), and some C&O and B&O cars (old Rowa
semi-corrugated cars).
Prototypes of modeled heavyweight cars appear to come from a variety of different railroads, but most, naturally, are Pullman Standard cars. The differences between heavyweight cars of different roads are often more subtle and less visible, and it is a bit easier to letter a heavyweight car for different roads to make a realistic consist.
Steve Sandifer’s web site http://www.trainweb.org/jssand/ is
an excellent source comparing HO scale models and
Brass, acrylic and plastic car sides can model a great many more prototypical cars than are available fully molded. Companies like M&R models (r.martari@libero.it) with many sides available (sides list), Brass Car Sides (http://www.brasscarsides.com/), American Model Builders (http://www.laserkit.com/), Wheels of Time (http://www.wheelsotime.com/), Des Plaines Hobbies (http://www.desplaineshobbies.com/), Eastern Seaboard Models (http://www.esmc.com/An/An000905.html), East Wind Manufacturing (http://www.e-rpo.net/ewm/ewm_main/ewm_product_index.htm), Marshall Shops (http://www.marshallshops.com/), and JnJ trains (http://www.jnjtrains.com/). More prototype cars are now available fully assembled from companies like Intermountain (http://www.intermountain-railway.com/) and Kato (http://www.katousa.com/). Most of these companies do an excellent job of listing the prototypes of their sides and models, and they do not need not to be repeated here. I include a few of the prototypes for some of the less-well documented JnJ brass sides I have found. Several prototypical resin cast car bodies become available from time to time from small producers, but are not listed here because availability and knowledge is so limited.
At present, the mid-late19th century Overton cars from Roundhouse are widely available, but I am no expert on this era and have very little reference material. Photographs and drawings of cars from this era, that are detailed enough to be recognizable, are rare. The best I can do now is to present photographs I have found that are approximations of the model cars. I believe these 30’ cars was rare, especially toward the end of the 19th century.
Charlie Vlk provides a hot lead about these cars: “The "Overton" label applies to the shorty 30 foot cars previously released by MDC/Roundhouse. These are the cars based on the Sierra Railroad's shorty cars (made famous especially by the combine which has been filmed in many, many movies including the Petticoat Junction TV series).”
Baggage. What can I say – short baggage cars only have one door per side and ideally a window.

Roundhouse Overton baggage
car decorated for

A stubby baggage car
converted in 1862 to a RPO. The
Combine. Not an air-conditioned streamliner but still better than a stagecoach. Charlie Vlk identified the Overton cars as based on Sierra Railroad prototypes.
Roundhouse Overton combine
car decorated for

The coach to the left is
Sierra Railroad’s shortie combine #5 built by W.L. Holman of San Francisco in
1902 for use on the Angels Branch. The
coach to the right is Sierra Railroad’s shortie coach #6, also built by W.L.
Holman in 1902. These two coaches are
prototypes for two of the Overton cars.
Photo from the Railtown 1897
Coach. Charlie Vlk identified the Overton cars as based on Sierra Railroad prototypes.

Roundhouse 30’ Overton
wood truss rod coach decorated for AT&SF.
The prototype for this car is the Sierra Railroad shortie coach #6
(photo above).
Parlor / sleeper car. Can anyone
find a drawing or photo of a prototype car?

Roundhouse 30’ Overton
wood parlor / sleeper car decorated for AT&SF.
The Roundhouse Overland cars represent late 19th century and early 20th century wood truss-rod cars. They are typical of the few photographs I have seen. I am no expert on this era, but there seems to be little standardization of cars and many small car builders making cars individually for each railroad. This makes exact prototype matching difficult. The best I can do now is to present photographs I have found that are approximations of the model cars. The model cars do not have the smokestacks typical of cars from this era, which need to be added to exhaust the wood stoves used to keep passengers warm.
Baggage-coach combine.

Roundhouse Overland
combine car decorated for

This car dates from
1870. It is similar to the Roundhouse
model but has a different roof, door and number of windows. I have lost my notes on its history and the
source of the photo.

This is a standard gauge
combine built by the Carter Bothers about 1882 for the Los Angeles County
Railroad. While the car has a more
highly curved roof, the sides and body style are similar to the Roundhouse car.
From page 78 of South Pacific Coast by Bruce MacGregor, Howell North
Books, 1968.
Coach. The UP coach
is a very close match to the Roundhouse Overland coach, but the UP prototype
has two more windows per side.

Roundhouse 50’ Overland
coach decorated for

UP wood truss-rod coach of
the 1890’s. Photo from page 11 of
Patrick Dorin’s Coach Trains and Travel.
What could be a better “overland” car than one owned by the UP or CP?

A CP day coach of the
early 1870s. A Pullman Standard builder’s photo. The car is on 4-wheel trucks,
about 50’ long. From page 126 of Mr.
Pullman’s elegant palace car, Lucius Beebe, Doubleday, 1961.
Sleeping car. I found two
close matches to the Roundhouse sleeping car.
The window arrangement gives these cars away as

Roundhouse 50’ Overland
“sleeping car” decorated for

A through-coach built by

Another car matching the external appearance of the
Roundhouse model. This is the
Parlor car. I did not
find any photos of “parlor cars”, but a few pictures of similar business
cars. In terms of the photographic
record, all the goodies seem to have gone to the executives rather than the
traveling public. This sounds like the
current situation with massive grabs an perks by corporate executives stealing
from stockholders.

Roundhouse 50’ Overland
“parlor car” decorated for

Roundhouse 50’

Business car built by
Like the
Claus Schlund identified prototypes for these cars. He found the line-art drawings in Walthers Passenger Car Plans (revised Second Edition, Wm. K. Walthers, 1973). This book has drawings of hundreds of cars stating that they are prototypes, and is designed as a guide for kit-bashers to use Walthers kits and parts to make new cars. Both the coach and the combine seem like very good matches to the CNW drawings. I would still like to gather more information on these cars. If you have a photograph or book, please send a scan to me. They look like 1920s era steel riveted cars.
John W. Perkowski reports “the Bachman heavyweight 60 foot
combine is similar to UP combines 2700 and 2749, shown in Schmitz (Schmitz,
Lou, Editor. UP Color Guide to freight
and Passenger Equipment, Volume 2.
Charlie Vlk reports “The Rapido Old Timers are also fading into memory.....they are about the same prototype as the Bachmann Old Timers (which are notable for having correct 5 foot wheelbase wood beam trucks)....while the Rapidos have standard European passenger car trucks.”
Combine. The prototype is a 60’ utility combine of Chicago & Northwestern series 7427-7439.

The scan is from page 25
of Walthers Passenger Car Plans. The
drawing indicates a riveted side and a fishbelly center sill (not truss rods as
it may appear in the scan).
Bachmann 65’ steel combine
decorated for
Coach. The prototype is a 60’ utility coach of Chicago & Northwestern series 3211-3257, also a Soo Line 900 series smoking car.
The coaches in this photo sent by Claus Schlund (from
Dubin's Some Classic Trains) appear to be the Bachmann model prototype.

The scan is from page 27
of Walthers Passenger Car Plans.
Bachmann 65’ steel coach decorated for
Observation. The observation car appears to be just a coach modified with an observation deck instead of a vestibule.
Bachmann 65’ steel observation decorated for Great Northern
in Empire Builder colors. EB colors were still decades in the future when cars
of this type were built.
The model is similar to the gas-electric cars produced by
Electro-Motive Corp. in the mid to late 1920’s (for example see photo of CGW
M-300 on page 348 of Dubin’s Some Classic Trains, or the rebuilt M-109
of Santa Fe). Marty McGuirk (Model
Railroader, August 1998, page 24) states “…the N scale model is not a model of
a specific prototype, but with its boxy construction and flat nose resembles many
of the more than 400 cars built in the 1920s and ‘30s by Electro-Motive
Corp. No two doodlebugs were exactly
alike. In fact, EMC didn’t even build
the bodies, as it contracted out the coachwork to firms such as
Combine RPO-Baggage-Coach. Claus Schlund reports, “This car is a PRR class MPB70/MPB70a combine. Unlike the coach, the supplied 3CP1 trucks are correct for this car. Roof diamond pattern is not quite correct – should be no diamonds above baggage area. PRR owned 30 MPB70 cars and a further 30 MPB70a cars - they were indistinguishable externally.” The Model Railroader article of August 1963 page 36 supplies drawings of both the Model Power combine and coach, and may have inspired these models.

Model Power heavyweight
combine decorated (incorrectly) as a Santa Fe RPO.

The Pennsylvania MPB70/MPB70a combine
(coach-baggage-RPO). Drawing from page
36 of Model Railroader, August 1963.
Coach. This is
clearly the PRR P70 steel coach built by American Car & Foundry starting
about 1914. An earlier version was built
in the
Claus Schlund reports, “This car is a model of an
early-production PRR class P70 coach, used by the following roads: PRR,
Pennsylvania Lines, Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines, LIRR. PRR and its
subsidiaries owned thousands (really!).
The car shell and roof represents a pre-air conditioning era car, thus
is correct as is for the 1908-1930's era, possibly as late as 1945. Shell is quite correct, roof is correct,
trucks are NOT correct (the supplied trucks are six-wheeled PRR class 3CP1
design, and should be one of PRR's distinctive four-wheel designs). A company called NHD makes/made a round roof
to convert the roof outline to that of an upgraded air-conditioned car, thus
making this car useful to modelers of the 1950-1970 era. Detailed drawings [and
photographs] of the prototype are found in MR [Model Railroader magazine] 1963
Aug page 36. I have found the

Model Power heavyweight
coach decorated for a

The P70 coach built by American Car and Foundry in 1914 for
the
Observation.
This is an all-lounge or parlor car because of the regular window
spacing along the whole car. In addition
to the lavatory windows at the end, it has 20 windows in the seating section
with alternate narrow and medium width supports between windows. The car is identical to the Model Power coach
except for the substitution of an open platform at the end instead of a
vestibule (note the improbable lavatory window at the observation end; compare
with the coach picture above). The car
could be based on an existing mold rather than a prototype. An approximate prototype match is the Pullman
parlor-observation of the late 1920’s used on the

Model Power heavyweight
lounge-observation car, undecorated. The
roof is not the one sold with this car.

A Pullman sun-parlor-lounge car on the
The Rivarossi heavyweight cars generally represent
Full baggage-express, 85’. A baggage car this long is not common among railroads generally. Russell Straw reports “The Rivarossi heavyweight baggage car is an exact model of the ATSF 1849. This car was converted by ATSF from their Baggage-Buffet-Library car the "San Vincente" #1348 in 1943.” Dr. Bradley Scherer also kindly alerted me to the prototype for this car, which is “one-of-a-kind”. Note that Rivarossi also models the rebuilt "San Vincente" as a combine car originally built in 1923 and later remodeled (see below).
The Rivarossi baggage car is lettered exactly the same as
the prototype, whose photo appears on page 96 of Ellington and Shine’s Head
end cars,

Rivarossi baggage car decorated for


Great Northern baggage-express car was rebuilt from a
passenger car (note the blocked vestibule door). Photo from page 149 of Great Northern
pictorial Vol. 4 by Strauss.
Combine baggage-coach. This style car is rare and apparently is
unique to the
The car is the second version of the buffet-library-baggage
car “San Vicente” #1348, originally built for
The model is also of the

Rivarossi-Atlas “rider” combine decorated by Atlas for

Original

Remodeled
Coach. This
car is very similar to the Pullman Standard 84-seat chair car of 1924 built for
the Alton Limited (Some Classic Trains page 154). This prototype has one more window than the
model. The Southern Pacific coach from
American Car & Foundry (1929) is also similar but has 2 more windows than
the model (photo on page 96 of The best of Mainline Modeler’s passenger cars
vol. 1). The Rivarossi model may
also be a variation of AC&F’s P70 coach as used on the
Claus Schlund reports “This car seems strongly to resemble
C&O and B&O coaches I have seen.
In addition, the car is correct for several plans of
John Perkowski reports “The Rivarossi heavyweight coach, if
converted from a monitor to a Harriman roof, is essentially identical to UP
chair cars 402-421 (

Rivarossi heavyweight
coach decorated for the Gulf Mobile and

The Pullman Standard 84-seat chair car of 1924 built for the
Alton Limited (Some Classic Trains page 154).
Diner. This is
a Santa Fe Pullman diner of the mid-late 1920s and was used on trains such as
the California Limited. Russell Straw
reports “The diners, numbers 1400-1411, were built by
Steve Sandifer’s web page http://www.trainweb.org/jssand/Protot/RivHDinPg.htm reports that the cars 1456-1463 were built by Pullman in 1922 to Plan 3391, Lot 4637. The third photo below is from that site and matches the Rivarossi model. The site states “To make your Rivarossi car match [the later reworked version of this car], you will need to remove the louvered vents on the sides at the dining room end and totally rework the roof and undercarriage to match your air conditioned or original version. The kitchen windows on the model have vertical dividers, which should be removed. At some time around 1950 the upper portion of the large windows was plated over, as in the Whittaker photo.”

Rivarossi diner decorated
for


Pullman sleeper.
This is clearly the 12-section /1-drawing room sleeper built in the
thousands by
Claus Schlund reports “This is a model of a
Steve Sandifer reports, regarding the
Tom Madden reports [from Steve Sandifer’s web site]:
"In 1935 the
John Perkowski reports “[The] Rivarossi Pullman is identical
to UP Cars Multnomah and

Rivarossi 12-1 PS sleeper decorated for

Heavyweight 12 section /1 drawing-room sleeper “Pepin” built
and operated by
Observation lounge.
Russell Straw reports: “The Cafe-Lounge cars were built by PS in 1930
[for

Rivarossi
observation-lounge decorated for

Santa Fe Café-Lounge #1513 (

Rivarossi
observation-lounge, opposite side.
.

Drawing of Santa Fe
Café-Observation #1514 (
Troop sleeper. To ease the
passenger car shortage for troop movement during World War II, the U.S. Office
of Defense Transportation contracted with

Microtrains troop sleeper
model.

Pullman-built troop
sleeper of 1943 (photo from Model Railroader magazine, Kalmbach publications,
Dec. 2001, page 89).
Troop kitchen car

Microtrains troop kitchen
car model.

Microtrains troop kitchen
car model, opposite side.

Troop kitchen car built by
ACF 1943 (photo from Model Railroader magazine, Kalmbach publications, Feb.
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