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Sunday October 7, 1962 CNR 6167 Excursion

     On Sunday, October 7, 1962, CNR 6167 pulled the first excursion sponsored by the Michigan Railroad Club from Sarnia to Stratford and Return. The train originated at GTW's Detroit Brush Street Station, and was pulled by GTW GP9's 4922 and 4916. The 16 car train appears to have consisted primarily of CNR coaches in addition to a GTW Baggage Car. The train traveled towards Sarnia via Mt. Clemens to Port Huron, MI. At some point a third GP9, CN 4510 was added onto the consist, possibly to help pull the train through the St. Clair River Tunnel. Upon arriving at Sarnia at 10 a.m., the diesels were removed and 6167 was coupled onto the train by 10:20 a.m. Run-pasts were done near Thedford, Lucan Crossing and St. Marys.

     The train arrived at Stratford at about 1 p.m., where it was turned on the wye, then the locomotive took on coal by means of steam crane CN 50017 which was equipped with a clamshell bucket, and took on water from a nearby standpipe. Then the locomotive was positioned outside of the Big Shop, where 6069, 5700, 6200 and 6400 were also on display. There was a photo run on the return to Sarnia at Lucan Crossing.

     The program included here mentions the usage of Dome Cars on chartered fall foliage tours of the eastern U.S. and Canada by Random Tours of California. It just so happened that in September 1964, one of these Dome Cars happened to be available the weekend of 6167 made her final trips double-heading with 6218 and was included in the consist at the last minute.

     Thanks to Don McQueen for providing me with a program of the trip, Jim Parker for his photographs, and Ed Johnson for his photographs and his account of the trip.


M I C H I G A N  R A I L R O A D  C L U B

Sunday, October 7, 1962

     WELCOME ABOARD OUR GTW-CN SPECIAL TRAIN! We hope you'll have an enjoyable time today. To help you we've prepared a map of our route so you'll know your whereabouts at all times. Other rail lines crossing and connecting with our route are identified by key numbers- they're explained just below the map.

GUIDE TO CONNECTING LINES

1 NYC from Detroit 10 CN to Palmerston and Owen Sound
2 GTW to Durand, Chicago and Muskegon 11 CN to Kitchener, Guelph and Toronto
3 NYC to Bay City and Mackinaw City 12 CN to Paris, Brantford and Fort Erie
4 GTW to Pontiac and Jackson 13 CP to Toronto
5 GTW to Chicago 14 CN to Toronto
6 C&O to Saginaw 15 L&PS to St. Thomas and Port Stanley
7 PH&D to Marine City 16 CN to Glencoe and Windsor
8 CN to Goderich 17 CP to Windsor
9 CN to Goderich 18 CN to Petrolia

SCHEDULE IS PRINTED ON YOUR TICKET

     After joining the GTW-CN Chicago-Toronto main line at Tappan, and before we reach Tunnel Station at Port Huron, you'll see on the right side of our train the interchange with the Port Huron & Detroit Railway, a 19.1-mile-long common carrier connecting Port Huron with Marysville, St. Clair, Belle River and Marine City, Michigan. Seen throughout the continent are this little road's new bright blue box cars stenciled "PHD, The St. Clair Blue Water Route."

     Between Port Huron and Sarnia we'll pass through the St. Clair Tunnel, built by the Grand Trunk Railway and opened to traffic in 1891. The first international submarine railway tunnel in the world, it's underwater length is 2,290 feet, and total length 11,725 feet. It was electrified in 1908 and operations were completely dieselized in 1958. During World War I there was a plot to blow up the tunnel but fortunately this was thwarted. The tracks were lowered in 1949 to accommodate larger freight cars. The Port-Huron-Sarnia portion of our route is technically referred to as the St. Clair Tunnel Subdivision. An unusual speed restriction is shown in operating time tables, prohibiting speeds of more than 5 miles per hour through the tunnel for trains handling dome cars. It's unusual in view of the fact that CN and GTW don't own any dome cars -- but dome cars of other railroads are operated through the tunnel when Random Tours of California runs its chartered fall foliage tours of the eastern U.S. and Canada over the GTW and CN.

      One mile east of Sarnia we'll be at Sarnia Junction, where we branch off onto the Forest Subdivision of the CN. A 35-mile-an-hour speed limit is imposed over this freight only line's 70.6-mile distance from Sarnia Junction to St. Mary's Junction so there won't be any breathtaking speeds attained here. There will, however, be two photo run-pasts and they're scheduled as follows (time permitting):

(1) EAST OF THEDFORD (Milepost 37.8): Train will pull completely past the overpass so passengers can get off on the right (engineer's) side only for photos. Those desiring to do so can walk back up the easy embankment onto the bridge. After unloading passengers the train will back up, then come forward with an appropriate mixture of steam, smoke arid whistling. After running completely past the trackside photographers the train will stop, back up so we can get on again and continue on our journey.

(2) LUCAN CROSSING (Milepost 17.4 between Ailsa Craig and Lucan): Train will stop just east of highway grade crossing so photographers can get off on the right (engineer's) side only. An excellent vantage point can be obtained by walking back to the highway and forming a "firing line" on it's west shoulder -- but don't go beyond this lineup. After unloading passengers the train will again back up and perform as outlined in runpast (1) above.

AT ST. MARY'S JUNCTION (Milepost 0.0) train will stop but DO NOT GET OFF. This stop is for operating reasons only as the train crew must throw switches for trains leaving the Forest Subdivision and entering the Thorndale Subdivision, over which we'll continue on our way to Stratford. Higher speeds are permitted on the Thorndale Subdivision, which has regularly scheduled passenger service.

AT STRATFORD get off the train on the left (fireman's) side. Buses will be waiting for those desiring to tour the Festival Theatre. Others can spend their time as they see fit, either wandering into town for dinner or watching railroad operations at the depot. STRATFORD IS ON DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME -- It's one hour ahead of Eastern Standard Time observed in Michigan and on which our entire schedule is shown. BE SURE YOU DON'T MISS THE TRAIN!

If we can get away from Stratford on time chances are that there'll be enough light for one more photo run-past at:

(3) ST. MARY'S (Thorndale Subdivision Milepost 11.1: Here the train will stop at the station so photographers can get off on the right (engineer's) side and get up on the overhead street crossing just below the depot. We urge all to keep off the station platform in front of this overhead crossing so they'll keep clear of the photographers above.
AT LONDON a brief stop will be made for operating reasons -- DO NOT GET OFF THE TRAIN.

     From London to Sarnia we will be traveling over CN's Strathroy Subdivision, part of the highspeed Toronto-to-Chicago main line. It's here that 6167 should give us the most thrilling speed run of the day, proving that it wasn't lack of speed that "bumped" her out of regular service.

Cafeteria
Car

In Ontario a Canadian National Railways' Cafeteria Car will serve light lunches, soft drinks, coffee, etc., throughout the day at reasonable prices. There are no "sittings" -- come anytime as the car will be open continuously on the
Canadian portion of our trip (or at least until the food supply is exhausted).


Running Extra

  October 7: Steam Power will be used between Sarnia and Stratford, Ont., on excursion originating at Detroit via Grand Trunk Western and Canadian National Railways under sponsorship of Michigan Railroad Club. Trip will operate in one direction via Mt. Clemens, Mich., and Forest, Ont., and in opposite direction via London, Ont., and Mt. Clemens. for full information, send self-addressed, stamped envelope to Michigan Railroad Club, P.O. Box 2271, Dearborn, Mich.

Trains Magazine September 1962, Pg 58
Trains Magazine October 1962, Pg 55
© 2011, TRAINS Magazine, Kalmbach Publishing Co., reprinted with permission.


Routing
Sarnia to St. Mary's Junction via the Forest Sub
St. Mary's Junction to Stratford via the Thorndale Sub
Stratford to London via the Thorndale Sub
London to Sarnia via the Strathroy Sub


CNR 6167 at Sarnia
Frank Smeltzer Photo, Jim Parker Collection

CNR 6167 Passing through Lucan Crossing
Frank Smeltzer Photo, Jim Parker Collection

CNR 6167 at Stratford
Frank Smeltzer Photo, Jim Parker Collection

CNR 6069 at Stratford. The men in the photo are identified as Bill Moon, Jack Shirley, Ernie Palmer and Ron Lee
Frank Smeltzer Photo, Jim Parker Collection

     Canadian National 4-8-4 6167 is eastbound through Forest, Ont., M.P. 56 from Stratford, ONT., with the 16 car Michigan Railroad Club special to Stratford, Ont. Larry & Alberta Johnson are trackside to see their son, Edward, who is riding the train. It is Sunday Oct. 7, 1962 about 11:15 A.M. Larry Johnson photo, courtesy Ed Johnson

     The first photo run of the day for the Canadian National 4-8-4 6167 was one mile east of Thedford, Ont. The photo of the 16 car Michigan Railroad Club special was taken from the Widdle Road bridge. Stratford, Ont., 46 miles east, was the destination. It is Sunday Oct. 7, 1962 about 11:45 A.M. Photo courtesy Ed Johnson

     Canadian National 4-8-4 6167 steam locomotive is making a photo run at Lucan Crossing, Ont. The 16 car Michigan Railroad Club Special came from Detroit, Michigan to Sarnia, Ont. with diesel power. The 6167 took the train to Stratford, Ont. and is now headed back to Sarnia. The Sarnia to Stratford line crosses the London, Ont. to Goderich, Ont. line where the fourth car is in the picture. It is Sunday Oct. 7, 1962 about 4 P.M. Photo courtesy Ed Johnson


A video of the trip uploaded to YouTube by Edmund Tobin.

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