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Foreign Cars in Santa Fe Passenger Trains

Foreign Cars in Santa Fe Passenger Trains

Revised 12/22/02

It was common to find foreign road cars on Santa Fe passenger trains. These cars fit into four categories:

The primary interchanges were at Chicago and Kansas City.

The information which follows comes from Fred Frailey’s Quarter Century and from conversations on the internet with Andy Sperandeo (MR), Michael Flick, Dennis Henry, Bob Burton, Richard Hendrickson, Tom Cockle, Jim Hurt, Jerry Pitts, Fritz Milhaupt, Bob Zoeller, Dennis Rockwell, John Moore, Martin Obed, John P. McCort, and Wes Leatherock. See Quarter Century for your time period and specific trains.

#7/8, Fast Mail, is probably the most photographed train with foreign cars. Part of this is because the PA units were frequently in charge. It ran from Chicago to Los Angeles. The Second Quarter 1997 issue of The Warbonnet, was devoted to the Fast Mail Express. With the permission of the Society, the entire article is enclosed for your benefit. The actual consist will vary depending on the era you are modeling, but cars which were seen on it included:

#3/4 California Limited in postwar years was a mop-up train for overflow traffic for the Fast Mail. Just about anything seen on #7/8 might show up on #3/4. In the 60s, Frailey indicates it carried a lot of MP traffic and even CRIP from Buffalo to Kansas City to Gallup.

#5/6 Ranger, ran from Chicago to Galveston.

#9/10, Kansas City Chief, included:

After 1960, the head end load added:

#11/12 (111/112), Kansas Cityan / Chicagoan. Frailey does not document any foreign cars on these trains but photos indicate their presence.

#17/18, Super Chief, was a crack sleeper train interchanging sleepers with other roads in the 50s. After 1954, coast to coast sleeping cars on this train were protected by Santa Fe's stainless steel cars. Only rarely (Frailey says once or twice a month) would sleepers from eastern connections be seen in place of Regal or Pine cars. These sleeper pools were:

#19/20, The Chief began carrying coast to coast sleepers in April, 1946.

#1/2, San Francisco Chief began in 1954 as Santa Fe's crack train between Chicago and Oakland. Photos show it with PRR sleepers.

#23/24 (123/124) Grand Canyon often carried foreign road sleepers in chartered tour service. Frailey listing the 1953 consist includes 5 cars assigned to Vanderbilt tour, two to Cook tour, and one to Pullman. The 4/02 Warbonnet had an extensive article with consist information. Express baggage cars from the East were also included.

Selected Pullman heavyweight sleepers found in 1951-53 consists listed in the Warbonnet included:

#75/76 California Special/Texas Ran from Houston to Clovis. It's consist included:

Others: Aside from cars supplied on a regular basis under the various pool service agreements, as noted above, foreign road head end cars turned up all the time on single trips. Hendrickson has photos of a Rock Island baggage car, GN express reefer, and an NRC express reefer on Santa Fe rails, and has seen photographic evidence of numerous others. Railway Express Agency express reefers were common, including the post-WW-II welded steel cars (HO models just coming out from Branchline) and the reefers converted from wartime troop sleepers. The weekly newsmagazines (Time, Newsweek) were printed on the east coast and rushed to California in box express cars every week, usually Pennsy X29s.

Videos

Santa Fe Vintage Diesels, Pentrex.

0:04:04 - Grand Canyon, Edelstein Hill, EL Lwt Baggage; REA Reefer.

0:13:24 - Chief, Chilicothe, IL, NYC Troop express, outside door, EL lwt Baggage.

All Aboard, Vol. 1, Pentrex.

1:09:23 - #23 Grand Canyon, 6/60, LaJunta, with MP Eagle LWT express.

 

References:

Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, RP Cyc 6. 200l. This has a superb article on Express Box Cars with photo and a roster of many lines.

Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, RP Cyc 7, 2002. This has a superb article on Express Reefers with photo and a roster of many lines.

Burton, Bob. Lubbock. The Warbonnet: 2/99. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling society.

Collias, Joe G. and George, Raymond B. Katy Power: Locomotives and Trains of the Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad. MM Books, Crestwood Missouri, 1986

Drury, George. A 4-4-2 passenger car? Pullman sleeper. Model Railroader, June 1975 page 47. This article describes the "Imperial" 4-4-2 cars and describes how to kitbash one from AHM 10-6 cars. Such kitbashing is not necessary due to the Eastern Car Works kit. The article includes drawings and floor plan of UP 4-4-2 Twin Peaks.

Frailey, Fred W. A Quarter Century of Santa Fe Consists. Godfrey, IL: RPC Publications, 1974. Paperback, 208. (Out of Print.)

Geissel, J. Harold. New York Central express reefer. Model Railroader, July 1953 page 45.

George, Raymond B. MKT Lines in Color. Morning Sun Books, 1994.

Lambert, Davig G. et. al. The Grand Canyon Limited. The Warbonnet, 4/02. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society

Lofton, Martin. Build a Texas & Pacific express boxcar. Model Railroader, May 1994.

Martin, Mike. Fast Mail Express: Just another Santa Fe Shooter. The Warbonnet: 3/97. Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling society.

Marvel, Bill. Santa Fe - All the Way, Vol. 1: 1940s - 1966. Scotch Plains, NJ: Morning Sun Books, 1998.

McCall, John and Schultz, Frank. Katy Southwest. Kachina Press, Dallas, 1985.

McCall, John. Santa Fe's Early Diesel Daze. Kachina Press, 1980. Besides being a great book, photos of foreign sleepers in ATSF consists appear on page. 162, 172, 194, 209, and a wild consist on page 239 which includes Erie Built 90, PB booster, Pennsy HWT Pullman, ATSF LWT sleeper, ATSF HWT TTG diner, and ATSF HWT coach,all in 1952 on the Grand Canyon.

Miller, Andy. Steel Railway Express reefer. Model Railroader, January 1989 page 116.

Mischler, Bill. Paint Shop: X29 Express Boxcar. Model Railroader, January 1985 page 140. The article describes how a car was kitbashed and painted. The article mistakenly says the cars were painted Tuscan Red. Red Caboose has since produced a model of this car.

Neubauer, Eric. REA Express refrigerator cars 7400-7899. Railroad Model Craftsman, September, 1992, page 68. This article deals with REA reefers built in 1957.

Odegard, Gordon. New York Central express cars. Model Railroader, May 1991 page 108.

R50B Pennsylvania Refrigerator Car. S Gaugian, July/August 1987 page 19

Stagner, Lloyd E. Santa Fe in Color, 1940-1971. Vol. 3: Albuquerque - Los Angeles. Edison, NJ: Morning Sun Books, 1993.

Stagner, Lloyd. Santa Fe Trackside, with Bill Gibson. Scotch Plains, NJ: Morning Sun Books, 1999.

Switzer, Mont. Head-End Equipment REA reefer detailing. Mainline Modeler, October 1988 page 76.

Trager, George T. Passenger Cars 4-4-2. Mainline Modeler, April 1992 page 42.

Wider, Pat. Production WWII Troop Sleeping and Kitchen Cars. Railway Prototype Cyclopedia, Vol. 5. RP CYC Publishing Co, 2000.

Zimmerman, Karl. Santa Fe Streamliners: The Chiefs and their Tribesman. New York: Quadrant Press, 1987.

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